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    February 26, 2014
    8:00 - 9:01am PST  

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michaela starts now. the secret clinton files, a huge trove of documents about bill and hillary clinton. what do they say? when will they be released? why it puts president obama in a bind. >> a baby with three jen etd tick parents. scientists say they can do it but should they? who gets custody, who has legal rights? >> he shook up the world or was it the mom? >> new information that the fbi thought one of the most famous fights in history might have been fixed? we will hear from boxing legend, don king live. >> hello. i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. good morning out west. it is 8:00 a.m. out there. happening now, a passenger terminal at the port of miami is being evacuated due to a bag of
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unknown substance. evacuation is affecting terminal "b" and a norwegian ship. they are out working on this. >> also, at this hour, we're awaiting a big decision by arizona governor, jan brewer, on the controversial ledgereligiou freedom bill. they include american, delta airlines, marriott and at&t. sources are telling us that brewer is very likely to veto it. it would allow businesses to turn away customers on religious grounds. critics say it is designed to discriminate against gays. >> talk about an arctic blast. temperatures have been below zero in parts of the midwest with windchills reaching 30 below. 15-25 degrees lower than normal across the midwest and 10-20 below average here in the northeast. tomorrow, even colder. no end this week to the deep freeze hitting the northern part of this country. >> an internal e-mail obtained
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by cnn shows that the department of homeland security is cutting the air marshals. the e-mail blames budget cuts but doesn't mention how many positions have been eliminated obama karcare enrollment ha hit a milestone. folks still have a month to go before the deadline for coverage this year. now, originally, the administration said it was hoping to have 7 million people signed up by the end of march. they now say 6 million is a more reasonable expectation. we have a huge story that has the government, parents, and scientists asking a lot of questions. so we all know where babies come from. >> i'm glad we are not having that talk right now. >> a basic fact of life. scientists are talking about doing something completely different. having babies come from not two but three parents. scientists say they can make
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babies that have three genetic parents or should they? >> that's the big question. the issue of whether or not to allow that to happen is being discussed by the fda today. the idea is to use genetic material from three parents, three people so that certain diseases can be avoided. now, of course, critics are crying foul. they are calling it creating designer babies. they are concerned we are heading down a slippery slope where parents can seek out specific genetic traits like blue eyes or superior athletic abilities. also with us, cnn legal analyst, dan danny cevallos, whose specialty is health care ethics. >> what we are talking about here is obviously an ethical battle. it is a scientific discussion as well. do you think the approach is ethical and how does it work? >> well, it works this way. you have children born with
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mitochondrial diseases. it means the batteries of their cells are defective. you need energy. remember all those high school books with the cells dividing and things that need energy to drive it. these kids are born with problems in the battery. the technique is take an egg with a normal, healthy battery, a my toechondria and transplant it into an egg in a family you know has these diseases and fertilize it, voila, in theory, no problem, no disease, because you have put in the right genes. >> the egg has dna from two mothers. >> 37 genes come with the my toechondria and two mothers. in all honesty, i don't think we will have a dispute based on that. it is pretty clear the dad and the person that has the embryo and carries it to term are going to be the parents. >> let's bring in danny cevallos. is there going to be a problem there?
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let's start with the fact that there would be three parents. would somebody have a right to say that they can claim parentage to an offspring? >> well, that becomes a problem. how will the law deal with what is a parent and how to define a parent. dr. caplan, i have been a follower of dr. caplan's. he is a giant in the ethics field. i disagree with his position that this is somehow ethically incorrect. it is somehow ethically incorrect, because this won't be available to the poor. if it is mott medically necessary, it is a luxury. luxuries have been first available to those with disposable income. if it is not medically indicated, there is nothing ethically wrong with it only being available to those who can pay for the luxury at this time.
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there is an issue. the scientists say they can do it. it opens up this pandora's box. how much should you be messing with the genetic code. >> the real issue is this. it sounds okay. you are fixing a disease. i favor doing this procedure and letting it go forward. but it opens the door to other changes. now, somebody says, i want to lose some genes but not the battery of the cell. i would like to make a stronger baby, a taller baby. i'm not that crazy about having a child that is short. why don't we fix that too? the slippery slope is what i think is at issue. i am going to put my point this way. i don't think you can hold the disease repair hostage to worries about the slippery slope. i think they should get it now. it is up to us to say let's draw a line in the sand and say no improvement, no cosmetic genetics if you want to think of it that way. we will allow disease repair. it is up to us to make that
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rule. if we can't do it, we have no one to blame but ourselves. saying we are not going to fix children, allow healthy kids to get born, because we are worried that someday super baby is going to come. >> can the line be drawn legally and is it not so much a black and white area? is there a lot of gray here? >> in the world of medical ethics, we have drawn that line in the case of plastic surgery. it is much more dangerous. anesthesia, anyone will tell you, is a dangerous process. we ethically justify it. it serves zero purpose other than emotional well-being. if we medically justify plastic surgery, i have to imagine it isn't a great step to say if we are combining some materials in a petri dish, that this is somehow less ethical. again, the complaint is that this luxury is not available to those who cannot pay for it. are we ready to say, this should be government subsidized?
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that is a real problem. >> we are not anywhere near that. before we let you go, i'm fixated on this issue of three parents, dna from three parents. art says he doesn't think it will be a legal issue. i have a hard time believing this couldn't end up in court. it is dna for three people. >> legally, we already have this issue when it comes to contracts for someone else to carry your baby. we have so many different per mutations of what is a mother legally. they can be surrogates, they can carry. there are many different definitions of mother these days. if you add more parents, legally and contractually, the law will have to expand drastically to deal with this. once again, an example of technology outpacing the law. great to have you. >> certainly, big, big things for the fda to consider,
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scientific, ethical. that's a lot. >> i have two parents, man, that's enough. >> all right. ahead at this hour, the clinton papers, more than 30,000 documents kept secret. they are about to go public for the first time. what do they say? how could this affect hillary's future? >> how to offend 200 million people. an entire nation says, we are not just about sex, you know. # no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself.
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we could see some foreshadowing of the 2016
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presidential race. hillary clinton is on the road. she is giving a speech about health care in orlando. she is off to the university of miami for another address. >> last month she said she is not thinking about 2016. she told her supporters they shouldn't think about it either. >> back in little rock, about 33,000 pages of documents from bill clinton's white house years are supposed to be available for the public to see. for whatever reason, they are still under wraps. the documents are at the clinton presidential library. they include communications offer all kinds including between bill and hillary clinton during his eight years in the white house. this is obviously a huge deal for a ton of reasons. there is a new poll out that speaks about just how badly democrats would like to see hillary clinton run. 82% say, yes, get in the game. the white house reporter for politico. good to see you. thanks for joining us. the documents were supposed to be made available more than a
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year ago. what's the holdup here? >> it is not entirely clear. there is a three-stage review for the documents. it starts out with the national archives. from there, it is supposed to go to representatives of former president clinton and also to the white house to president obama's lawyers for review. it is not clear precisely where this got stuck in the process but we were told here at political that at least as of september of last year, a lot of these documents were sent to the lawyers for the former president and the current president. they seem to have been stuck until recently. we got word just yesterday that 25,000 of the 33,000 pages should be coming out sometime in the next month or two. >> that's a big deal. we are talking about 25,000 documents. first of all, josh, welcome. great to have you here. the piece in politico is fascinating, a comprehensive look at these documents and the history here. give us a sense of what might be in there, any potential bomb shells for the clintons?
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>> it is hard to know without seeing the documents themselves. these are not just random documents from the 78 million pages of things they have there at the clinton library. these are documents that were specifical specifically withheld, kept back from the public over the last dozen years or so, because they contain confidential advice or related to appointments that were made. a lot has to do with the scandals and legal difficulties the clintons found themselves in. the death of vincent foster, the white house attorney who was found in apparent suicide in a park near washington here. all kinds of issues. the billing records that were eventually found. it is sort of a whose who litany of the clinton era scandals, if you will. >> you mentioned one of the steps that has to get president obama's approval. could there be a role he is
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playing in this. back during the 2008 campaign, this became an issue. folks may remember at one point, the late tim russer held up a document in hillary clinton's face during a debate and said, president clinton is trying to keep records from the public. mrs. clinton said that wasn't true. it has already been a political liability for her. president obama or then running for president obama made it an issue and said he would see that these things came out more quickly, at least with respect to these records. that hasn't been the case. if the obama white house does hold them up further, there would be arguments he is going back on what he promised back in 2008. >> the president has been crystal clear on what he thinks about letting the sunshine in on documents like this. josh, you have covered campaigns for a long, long time. going back to 1996 in the bob dole campaign. how will you expect that republicans will use this
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information? >> i think mainly for republicans, it is a question of the mystery. what's behind the closed door, that there are secrets lurking out there that could really haunt the clintons or in particular, mrs. clinton? >> in the past, it has been my sense that when these records actually came out, they were not quite as surprising or as damaging as people thought they would be. some of hillary clinton's schedules and her phone logs came out in the 2008 campaign. you could argue pretty convincingly the question of why they weren't available was more damaging than what was in them. >> thank you so much for joining us and making your debut at this hour. >> as people are weighing their thoughts about hillary running as she is making her decision. interesting to see. >> someone is going to pour
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through every single page. it is a virtual guarantee we are going to be talking about hillary almost every week of the year. she has a book coming out too. significant progress in the fight against obesity for the nation's youngest children. older kids still have a way to go. we are going to talk about the good and the bad next. [ julie ] the wrinkle cream graveyard. if it doesn't work fast... you're on to the next thing. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula to visibly reduce fine lines and wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®.
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welcome back. a lot of people are talking about this study. talking about huge progress in the fight against childhood obese obesity. the rate for 2-5-year-olds has dropped a whopping 43%.
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>> those early years are critical. that's when kids usually develop so many of their eating habits. a 5-year-old that is obese, more likely to be a teenager who is obese and an adult who is obese. the study has found no significant changes. >> a ceo for a nonprofit, alexis is joining us. i was not expecting progress in the fight against childhood obesity, only because it feels like we never hear good news in the fight against obesity. how did that strike you? >> i am so happy to hear you say that. today is such a euphoric moments for all the academics, nutritionists, experts, kids, school administrators, parents. it is really satisfying, really humbling, really critical that we start to see the tide turn. yet, as you know and michaela,
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you pointed out, there are still grave concerns about the obesity epidemic. so railly do we have an opportunity to say we are making progress. . this is one of the most defining moments in the childhood obesity epidemic. the awareness factor is probably the highest in the history of this nation. this report will draw more attention to the needs and desires that we need to focus on kids in the school building. >> so what's doing it, then? the question is, if we're seeing these numbers, which are surprising to a lot of people, welcome news to you, what's behind them? >> there is a series of factors. some will argue that even people like me, a mour of four kids, i breast fed my four kids. a lot of doctors argue that the movement for more mothers to breast feeding children, creating healthier nutrients and
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2-5 is the most impressionable and critical age to make sure we set up these children to be healthy, growing, vivacious students. one is breast feeding. two is the food we are consuming. it is the decrease in the consumption of sugary beverages. three, i think most importantly, if i could highlight this, because the work we do, for example, our program, we are in 73,000 schools across this couldn't interest i. 38 million kids a day focused on eating healthy and increasing the number of minutes the kids are physically active daily. we work so closely with the first lady and many other leaders from the partnership for a healthier america to dcd, you name it. president's council. i give them credit for awareness. i think that's in large measure why we are seeing this. >> the awareness is important. to get beyond that headline, i think that 43% drop is such a
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headline that is grabbing people's attention. we have to look past that for a second at the 20% obesity rate for those older kids. the 12-19-year-olds. that's a real concern too. what do we need to do there? what can we be doing going forward with that? >> excellent, excellent point. i argue that there is three areas we need to focus on, policy, prevention and awareness. when it comes to those who are watching right now, prevention is critical and starting prevention in your home and particularly as we focus in the k through 12 environment, policies are changing in this country in terms of the consumption of food. the importance of feeding kids a healthy breakfast. michaela, i'm not sure if you know this. let me tell you this. children who consume a healthy breakfast and who are physically active for a minimum of 30 minutes a day perform higher on mathematical tests up to 17% higher. they excel in reading.
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in many cases, they read at a great level higher. we call that the learning connection. the impact that eating healthy and being physically active has on performance, behavior, attendance. so my response back to you is, let's make sure we find ways for kids to be active before, during, and after the school day. as parents, it is our responsibility to make sure we are talking to our school administrators. we are making sure our kids are not going hungry when they walk into the school building and much of what the first lady is doing is making sure the kids get the proper nutrients that they can get in the school building at a minimum. >> alexis glick, thank you so much for this. you can hear the passion in her voice. she makes a good point. i don't mean to minimize the 43%, specially at such an important, pivotal age of little ones. those habits are set in stone.
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>> you should start with the 2-5-year-olds. last night, one of my boys, 6, about to turn 7. we are offering them to cake for dessert. we are enabling him. he said, no, no, i don't think i will have it tonight. what is wrong with you? >> you had a broccoli empanada for breakfast. >> don't look at me. what is best for the kids, same-sex parents or straight parents? a judge weighs the evidence today in a landmark trial in michigan. >> the nba making history and then making money. have they gone too far to cash in on the first openly gay player? hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go-- yea, sure ya did. [ male announcer ] introducing at&t digital life. personalized home security and automation. get professionally monitored security
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for a dealer and the rv that's right for you, visit gorving.com. all eyes are on arizona governor, jan brewer. the religious freedom bill allows businesses to turn away customers on religious grounds. critics say it is specifically designed to deny service to gay and lesbians white supporters say it protects people's religious beliefs. dozens offer national corporations have urged the governor to veto the bill. former supporters have changed their minds saying they want the governor to veto the bill now. steve pierce originally voted for it but now he too is calling for the veto. he spoke with anderson cooper last night. >> so you actually believe looking at it now that it would
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discriminate against some people in arizona? >> it has that ability, yes. it could. i have talked with a lot of people about it. they are going, well, what about going in the restaurant? what about doing this? >> the way it was described originally was, it is like, no shirt, no shoes, no service in a restaurant. well, it could be interpreted differently. it is too vague. who is it going to affect? i can see now where people are concerned about it. >> so governor brewer has until saturday to sign the bill or to veto it. if she does nothing, it becomes law. several lawmakers have told cnn that brewer will likely veto it. the silence is causing it to increase. the arizona governor is making up her mind about whether to sign the bill or not. in michigan, a same-sex couple is fighting a very different battle in court.
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they are challenging the state's same-sex marriage ban hoping to overturn a law that prevents them from adopting each other's children. >> it boils down to whether same-sex couples make good parents. psychologists testified, yes, they do. >> there will be other evidence in court where you are going to hear testimony that they don't. let's bring in lz granderson and danny cevallos. >> lz, let's start with you. we know you have a teenage son. why do you think this couple should or shouldn't be allowed to adopt? >> i think that the criteria that people need to be focused in on is whether or not there is love and stability in the household. from everything that i've seen about the case, there is nothing to suggest that those children are not being loved and that they don't have security. i understand this desire of wanting to live like what people consider the traditional family. i would like to tell those people that there is nothing traditional about a heterosexual
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family that kicks out their child because they are gay. that has happened. 40% of homeless youth are lgbt you are telling me just because there is a man and woman in a household guarantees love in a house just as it is not true that if you have a same-sex couple, the child is in danger. each case is individual. >> danny, what's making this case so interesting to so many people, you have a lot of people watching on both sides of the issue, is the so-called science of it? in this case, there will be scientific testimony where you have both sides playing and there are studies that support their claims. if will be a study from the university of texas from a soc olgist that says he has evidence that having gay parents can affect you in an adverse way when you grow up. how does a judge decide this? what does a judge take into consideration when you have testimony from scientists on both sides? >> here is why this case is problematic. like it or not, it will result in a court, a judge, someone
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appointed by the president for life deciding on this evidence and what happens if he decides that, in fact, there is some biological difference and that men and women are somehow scientifically superior relationships. that's the problem with dealing with this constitutional issue in federal court, because historically, this has been left to the states to define. when i say the states, i mean the voters, you and me. so while i probably wouldn't agree with a lot of the position of the state of michigan and i do not. i have read their amicus brief. the problem is procedurally. we are dealing with this case in federal court. are we prepared to take on the risk of a single judge and not the voters of a state making the determination about whether what if he says scientifically there is some superiority with man, women, parental relationships. now, you have case law when this issue should have remained with
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the voters of state of michigan. >> i work a lot with at-risk youth. i have said that a lot before. i have heard adoptive parents say the fact that they chose their kids. this was a child that was really wanted. i know there are going to be vo voices, lz, that say, this is a couple that wants these children, this child. they want them. the love and the dedication is there. there are so many families that are just having kids that don't want them. they are not being taken care of. that's a real frustration for a lot of people. >> absolutely. i used to live in michigan. i moved away. i was born and raised a michigander. i was a youth pastor of not one but two churches. i volunteer in my son's school. no one dotes over youth more than i do. to be told in michigan i couldn't adopt because somehow my sexual orientation would dictate my parenting skills was a complete slap in my face. my son, a 4.0 students going to
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one of the hardest schools in the state of michigan. i was told i wasn't a good parent based on my sexual orientation. this law, when it was enablcted was at a time when the country was moving toward anti-gay laws. president bush was the president trying to get an amendment into the constitution. that's where we were when this vote was taken back then. the state of michigan and the country is in a different perspective, because we have evidence and we have a different attitude about lgbt families. i hope president reagan will look at where the country is now, and the law and the science and see where the attitudes were back then when the ban was enacted is no longer relative today. >> this case will be going on all week. we'll keep our eye on it. >> it is interesting to see what comes out of it, how it will affect the things going on in other states. this is going to set some precedent. >> it will be case law, which is interesting. >> the chicago police force is trying a new measure to fight
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crime. according to the "chicago sun-times." it all started when a 14-year-old boy was shot to death earlier this month. instead of arresting warring gang members, police commanders went door to do to members of the group and they offered them a contact for job training and social services. >> what's really amazing here is that they are doing that personal contact. they are going door to door in these neighborhoods and we should point out, there hasn't been an arrest in the murder case yet. critics are labeling this thing a hug a thug policy. police are reporting a real degrees in violence. 50 people with long wrap sheets, visited so far, none have been suspected in a shooting since the program began. we have all seen the headlines on what is going on in chicago and some argue this isn't doing enough. this is a starting point, something they are doing. we are hoping to get a voice to talk about this and other efforts going on in chicago. >> i would like to get a first-hand account on what it is like. ahead at this hour, our hot
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flash. it feels like one. >> i feel it. >> joe biden makes a joke. did he just make a big rob lem for himself? we'll discuss. mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current
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welcome back, everyone. it is time for our hot flash. can you see it right there? these are three stories guaranteed to get you talking, starting with someone who always gets you talking. talking about vice president, joe biden. he was at an event with the current mayor of sacramento, who happens to be a former nba star, kevin johnson. the vice president was talking about his basketball skills. listen. >> i told the president next game i would have him. just remember, i may be a white boy but i can jump. >> he says he is a white boy who
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can jump. there was a famous movie, "white man can't jump." offensive, not offensive? >> for me, i wasn't offended at all. it is joe being joe. he is calling it as he cease it. he can jump. as a person of color, it didn't bother me at all. >> i don't want to be a spoiled sport but isn't it a stereotype? at a certain level, that's a racial stereotype. not about white people but it ends up being about african-americans. it is one of these things. everyone laughed. i don't think anyone was uncomfortable. i said this before. everyone thinks that i'm crazy. how would you explain this joke to my kids. >> you tell them about the movie. >> my best friend who is white says, i don't understand why we can't see people beyond color. it is part of who i am. it is kind of like saying, i don't see you as a redhead. we have to recognize the fact that we are who we are. >> i can jump and dance. >> i want to see both.
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on to brazil, is it too hot for brazil? should you look at this or avert your eyes as a married man? you are going to understand when you see this t-shirt, why brazil's tourism official wanted adidas to stop seeing it. the first time since 1950. big deal for that country where soccer is god. the government is concerned. it is a very real concern, about the countrys reputation for sex tourism. they took issue with this shirt. adidas agreed and they pulled the t-shirt. >> so, this is a single on ton dra. those t-shirts say, if you go to brazil, you will get sex. brazil equals sex. i can see why they might have issues with that. while i have never been to brazil, i presume there is a lot more that brazil has to offer. >> i lived in brazil for a year. this did not surprise me. this is completely in the vein of what brazil does. it is very interesting now. brazil has its first female
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president. the first time in the country's history. it is making me wonder if there is a bit of a shift going on in that nation for a little more sensitivity, if you will. >> she is taking this very seriously. she wants people to come to brazil but don't expect sex tourism is not something she wants to focus on. >> on to our next topic. >> jason collins, the first openly gay pro athlete in the united states in any of the four big team sports. that was a week ago. he signed this ten-day contract. he only has a ten-day contract. guess whose jersey is top seller now on the nba's website? jason collins, wearing number 98. selling off the shelves. the top selling jersey. this guy has a ten-day contract. i have never heard of anyone with a ten-day contract having their jersey up for sale. so the nba is sort of cashing in. >> you think it is the nba cashing in or do you think there are a lot of kids out there that are saying, wow, i admire this guy for what he did? i'll actually take a stand on that. he actually is pretty heroic
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that he stood up for his own truth and he is very brave. 'what i think kids should idolize. >> if the nba is making money off of it, fine. the number 98 is a great number to wear. >> you are still hot. >> that was our hot flash. ahead at this hour one of the most store reed upsets in the history of all sports, the fight that launched mohamm muhammad ali into the stratosphere. that's don king here to talk about this next. [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers.
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it was one of the biggest upsets in sports history. we're talking about a young boxer from louisville named cassius clay beating the champ 50 years ago this week. clay went on to change his name to muhammad ali. >> the question is, was america sucker punched here? there are startling allegations this event was a set-up, rigged by a mobster had allegedly had ties. and for the first time we're hearing the investigation launched an investigation. no comment from the ali camp. and sunny listin died in '71. we may never know the truth. but we've got something pretty special anyway. we want to talk about this a man who knows boxing as well as
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anyone. >> look who is here. >> promoter don king, international man with flags in just about every country. great to have you here. >> don, just a pleasure to be here. and ali said bring that title back to america and that's what we're going to try to do. in fact, that's what i'm here for, to see which network will get it. will it be time warner or espinoza or cbs. and so i want to make certain we've got the heavyweight title fight with chris areola. >> let's talk about the fight 50 years ago. >> yes, 50 years ago. >> allegations now being -- >> absolutely nothing. >> you don't think it was rigged? >> absolutely nothing. let me tell you something. muhammad ali is so great that no one would ever know how great he really is. because after he won the title, they took four years of his life of standing up for people, for his rights, for his being a
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conscientious objector. and then they brought him into the ring and he started again four years later. those four years absence at the height of his career, no one could judge what would have happened then, because he continued on as winning without those four years. so i coined the phrase of -- every head must bow every knee must bend, the greatest of all-time is muhammad ali. >> there are many people who agree he is the greatest. we're not going to argue that point. but you say there is just no chance. there is no chance that this -- could there have been a chance it was rigged and he didn't know about it? >> no. because he was beating sunny liston and he knew his talent. you could say, well, the evidence -- but the empirical evidence was that he was beating
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this man, and he continued to beat everyone, even including george foreman. >> which you happened to be a part. >> yes, i happened to be part of that. but that was a strong man. george foreman was a phenomenal fighter. so liston was a hard punch, er. you've got to understand. at that time, all due respect. people of color were always going to be investigated. you didn't have to worry about that. civil rights movement -- >> there is all kinds of evidence that j. edgar hoover investigated all kind -- >> anything. that's why -- he had a book. he had a book, john. >> let me talk to you about the second fight, though. because this idea that fights can be rigged, even fights with ali and liston, that's nothing new. the second match a year later, there was the phantom punch. liston went down, ali didn't seem to touch him. a will the lot of people said
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that fight was rigged. so you know there are these allegations swirling. >> you've got to understand how fast ali was. >> faster than the camera? >> this is what you -- this is what you keep missing. because it's so phenomenal. i can understand that a normal person and even a super normal, like yourself, you know what i mean? you would miss some of these things. ali, you know, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. >> float like a butterfly sting like a bee. >> your eyes hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. you get back into bed before the doctors came in. you've got to see that, john. what's so fabulous to make this happen -- that's why i want to bring the renewed and dedicated -- this is the 40th anniversary year of muhammad ali. >> we know that. >> we want to bring the heavyweight title back to america. we keep talking the talk -- i
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don't know what espinoza is going to do on cbs. we better get it. old glory, may she ever wave. peace in the middle east is what we're talking about. peace in the middle east. we're going to do that, too. john and michaela. i'm so happy to be on your show. this is one of the greatest shows on cnn. i told that to ted turner when he first started. >> don king? >> but you know what, be john. america is the greatest nation in the world. we want that heavyweight title back in america. and we've got a chance to do it. and one of the networks better step up to the plate. >> let me tell you to hit tight, because we're going to end the show with the final thought. today's cable outrage, will make your hair hurt, even don king's hair. >> really specifically. >> it's about facial hair. >> john, you've got everything -- >> this is a story on the internet. >> greatest in the world. they are doing a program. and listen to what he has to say. >> this story claims there is a
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surge in designer facial hair transplan transplants. let's call them beer jobs. the story says they take hair from your head and put it on your face and it grows and you have to shave it, just like everyday hair. allegedly, guys are paying up to $7,000. just for the right of a beard or must it tab. apparently one of the most common requests are for brad pitt. >> they're not giving you -- you need a raise. you guys are startling. he have taken the people by storm. >> we are trying to take the people by storm. >> and i'm stopping right there. >> i think that's probably smart. >> let me say, the official motto of cnn. only one beard. >> what's that? >> that's my mine. >> something we can all agree on. >> yes, this is great. >> one head of hair on don king and one beard. >> that is it for us today.
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